> For the complete documentation index, see [llms.txt](https://www.ufohackers.org/hackers/llms.txt). Markdown versions of documentation pages are available by appending `.md` to page URLs; this page is available as [Markdown](https://www.ufohackers.org/hackers/richard-thieme/thieme-overview.md). # Thieme Overview ![](/files/Q02JTZXHkt62EyijItHy) ## **Author, Professional Speaker: Richard Thieme** [Richard "neuralcowboy" Thieme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Thieme), while not a hacker in the traditional sense, is an [author](http://thiemeworks.com) and public speaker, who talks on UFOs at the annual **DEFCON** hacker conference in Las Vegas, and at the **MUFON Symposium**: * **2002** MUFON Symposium - Are There UFOs on Mars?: " [YouTube video](https://youtu.be/uwR4iAlMA0s) {% file src="/files/QNdYZqdrXCgzhsdwuut6" %} Richard Thieme's conference proceedings from the **2002** MUFON Symposium {% endfile %} * **2006** DEFCON 14 - ([clip from talk](https://v.redd.it/fix3oedam2b91) - mentions crash retrievals and counterintelligence) * **2007** DEFCON 15 - Hacking UFOlogy: Thirty Years in the Wilderness of Mirrors: [PDF whitepaper](https://defcon.org/images/defcon-15/dc15-presentations/Thieme/Whitepaper/dc-15-thieme-WP.pdf), [M4B audio](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2015/DEF%20CON%2015%20audio/DEF%20CON%2015%20Hacking%20Conference%20Presentation%20By%20Richard%20Theime%20-%20Hacking%20UFOlogy%20-%20Audio.m4b), [MP4 video](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2015/DEF%20CON%2015%20video/DEF%20CON%2015%20-%20Richard%20Theime%20-%20Hacking%20UFOlogy%20-%20Video.mp4), [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/youtube-UaYFkKYzE7Q), [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZkol9q6i5Q) * **2009** DEFCON 17 - Hacking UFOlogy 102: The Implications of UFOs for Life, the Universe, and Everything: [M4B audio](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2017/DEF%20CON%2017%20audio/DEF%20CON%2017%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20-%20Hacking%20UFOlogy%20102%20The%20Implications%20of%20UFOs%20for%20Life%20the%20Universe%20and%20Everything%20-%20Audio.m4b), [MP4 video](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2017/DEF%20CON%2017%20video/DEF%20CON%2017%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20-%20Hacking%20UFOlogy%20102%20The%20Implications%20of%20UFOs%20for%20Life%20the%20Universe%20and%20Everything%20-%20Video.mp4), [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHPAa-Ocq9s) * **2013** Security BSides Las Vegas - Governments and UFOs: A Historical Analysis of Disinformation and Deception: [MP4 audio](https://infocon.org/cons/Security%20BSides/BSides%20Las%20Vegas/BSides%20Las%20Vegas%202013/Governments%20and%20UFOs%20A%20Historical%20Analysis%20of%20Disinformation%20and%20Deception%20R.mp4), [IronGeek](http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/bsideslasvegas2013/1-2-7-governments-and-ufos-a-historical-analysis-of-disinformation-and-deception-richard-thieme), [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/bsideslv2013/Bsideslv2013-1-2-7GovernmentsAndUfosAHistoricalAnalysisOfDisinformationAndDeception-RichardThieme.avi), [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKa356BIQV8) * **2013** DEFCON 21 - The Government and UFOs: A Historical Analysis: [PDF slides](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2021/DEF%20CON%2021%20presentations/DEF%20CON%2021%20-%20Richard-Thieme-UFOs-and-Govt.pdf), [TXT resources](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2021/DEF%20CON%2021%20presentations/DEF%20CON%2021%20-%20Richard%20Thieme-UFOs-and-Govt-Resources.txt), [MP4 video](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2021/DEF%20CON%2021%20video%20and%20slides/DEF%20CON%2021%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20-%20The%20Government%20and%20UFOs%20A%20Historical%20Analysis%20-%20Video%20and%20Slides.mp4), [SRT subtitles](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2021/DEF%20CON%2021%20video%20and%20slides/DEF%20CON%2021%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20-%20The%20Government%20and%20UFOs%20A%20Historical%20Analysis%20-%20Video%20and%20Slides.srt), [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/youtube-r8k5kGbCR0M), [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8k5kGbCR0M) * These two 2013 talks were in line with a book Thieme co-authored: [*UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry*](https://thiemeworks.com/words/books/ufos-and-government-a-historical-inquiry/). * Thieme also was interviewed by WBSD radio about the book: [Stream](https://thiemeworks.com/podcasts/wbsd-radio-interview-on-ufo-and-government/), [MP3 audio](https://thiemeworks.com/uploads/richard-thieme-wbsd-radio-interview.mp3) * **2014** THOTCON 0x5 - [UFOs and Government: a Case Study in Disinformation, Deception, and Perception Management](https://infocondb.org/con/thotcon/thotcon-0x5/ufos-and-government-a-case-study-in-disinformation-deception-and-perception-management) (No recording) * **2016** MUFON Symposium - Against the Wind: Why People Can't Think Seriously About UFOs: [Speaker Profile Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVyuCAOSIMM), [MUFON TV](https://mufontelevision.com/mufon-2016-symposium/?vimeography_gallery=18\&vimeography_video=195010507), [Vimeo video](https://player.vimeo.com/video/195010507) {% file src="/files/Ri0blFE7D8K9PIVJeWWI" %} Richard Thieme's conference proceedings from the **2016** MUFON Symposium {% endfile %} * **2016** Open Minds UFO Radio - UFOs, Technology and the Future (Alejandro Rojas has Thieme as a guest): [Podcast](https://rojasreport.podbean.com/e/richard-thieme-ufos-technology-and-the-future/), [MP3 audio](https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/download/9hnh1t/ufo_radio_2016_12_14_richard-thieme-ufos-technology-and-the-future.mp3) * **2016** Thieme pens the unpublished *Running Against the Wind: Why It’s So Hard to Think Seriously About UFOs*, published here for the first time. {% file src="/files/7bF1BCQLZfRmNAahyBmC" %} * **2021** DEFCON 29 - UFOs: Misinformation, Disinformation, and the Basic Truth: [PDF slides](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2029/DEF%20CON%2029%20presentations/Richard%20Thieme%20AKA%20neuralcowbo%20-%20UFOs%20-%20%20Misinformation%2C%20Disinformation%2C%20and%20the%20Basic%20Truth.pdf), [MP4 video](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2029/DEF%20CON%2029%20video%20and%20slides/DEF%20CON%2029%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20AKA%20neuralcowboy%20-%20UFOs%20-%20Misinformation%2C%20Disinformation%2C%20and%20the%20Basic%20Truth.mp4), [SRT subtitles](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2029/DEF%20CON%2029%20video%20and%20slides/DEF%20CON%2029%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20AKA%20neuralcowboy%20-%20UFOs%20-%20Misinformation%2C%20Disinformation%2C%20and%20the%20Basic%20Truth.srt), [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mExktWB0qz4) * **2022** DEFCON 30 - UFOs, Alien Life, and the Least Untruthful Things I Can Say: [Abstract](https://forum.defcon.org/node/242199), [PDF slides](https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2030/DEF%20CON%2030%20presentations/Richard%20Thieme%20-%20UFOs%20Alien%20Life%20and%20the%20Least%20Untruthful%20Things%20I%20Can%20Say.pdf), [MP4 video](https://infocon.org/cons/DEF%20CON/DEF%20CON%2030/DEF%20CON%2030%20video%20and%20slides/DEF%20CON%2030%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20-%20UFOs%2C%20Alien%20Life%2C%20and%20the%20Least%20Untruthful%20Things%20I%20Can%20Say.mp4), [SRT subtitles](https://infocon.org/cons/DEF%20CON/DEF%20CON%2030/DEF%20CON%2030%20video%20and%20slides/DEF%20CON%2030%20-%20Richard%20Thieme%20-%20UFOs%2C%20Alien%20Life%2C%20and%20the%20Least%20Untruthful%20Things%20I%20Can%20Say.srt), [YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWu14-EfucI) Thieme has given talks on other topics as well, [see a more complete index here](https://infocondb.org/presenter/richard-thieme-neuralcowboy). Thieme also wrote a monthly column which was compiled in his book [*Islands in the Clickstream*](https://thiemeworks.com/words/islands-in-the-clickstream/). In the original version, no longer in print, Chapter 9 "The Dark Side of the Moon and Beyond" contains columns written between **1997** and **2001** regarding UFOs. With Thieme's permission, I have republished five of these columns [here](/hackers/richard-thieme/islands-in-the-clickstream.md). * **2022** Reddit AMA with Richard Thieme on /r/UFOs: [Reddit thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zi1x42/hi_im_richard_thieme_ama_about_ufos/) Thieme's **2023** fiction book [*Mobius: Out of Time*](https://thiemeworks.com/words/books/mobius-out-of-time/) covers "the deft management of UFO phenomena and research in the intelligence community," among other topics. While an Episcopal priest, Thieme reports a fighter pilot confided in him regarding UFOs, confirming that in their fastest jets, > We chase them, and we can't catch them. * Source: **2014** ["Out of the closet on UFOs"](https://archive.jsonline.com/news/opinion/out-of-the-closet-on-ufos-b99203753z1-245623181.html/) by Richard Thieme - *Milwaukee Journal Sentinel* newspaper ### Glen Campbell DEFCON Talk At DEFCON 3 in **1995**, the late UFO researcher Glen Campbell gave a talk on Area 51:\ [DEF CON 3 - Glen Campbell - QA of Govermental Activities and Surrounding Area-51](https://infocon.org/cons/DEF%20CON/DEF%20CON%203/DEF%20CON%203%20audio/DEF%20CON%203%20-%20Glen%20Campbell%20-%20QA%20of%20Govermental%20Activities%20and%20Surrounding%20Area-51.m4b)